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Post by dummyreturn on Sept 12, 2011 16:28:25 GMT 8
Dear Admin, Good day and hope you guys doing well!!
Just would like to ask this question and appreciate if admin could spend some time to elaborate.
Of late, there's unique market and commodities movement. We have seen in the past generally whenever market moving up, commodities like gold, oil will be moving down and vice versa. Now we are seeing parallel trend where both either going up or down.
This not being the case lately, and could admin provide some insights on this situation?
On another note,
1. Could market materialization of tokenization take place earlier than anticipated? ie before 2012 Game/Cup ? Mayb could be as early as early 2012?
2. Could major market like djia crash again and more severe than 2008 crash? I am talking abt djia crash to 5000 pts.
3. What happen to other countries that survive minimal impact during 2008 crisis like Asia (China), ANZ(Australia), India? Are they going to hit hard this time? Especially in China where we see they are in the peak of almost everything include property sector.
What's admin opinion and take on the above points? Appreciate admin's assistance.
Many Thanks,
dummyreturn
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Post by alexsymbols on Sept 13, 2011 18:30:42 GMT 8
Alex Symbols try to explain this part first.
| Gold /oz | US$ | | 1 oz | 400.00 | | 1 oz | 450.20 | | 1 oz | 700.00 |
If you read the Gold price /oz down the table, you will find Gold price increases = Gold price becomes expensive = Gold is appreciated against US$ = US$ is depreciated against Gold. But if you read the Gold price /oz up the table, you will find just the opposite. Here we would like to point out the appreciation-depreciation relationship; to read the table from bottom up, Gold is depreciated against US$ = US$ is appreciated against Gold.
Here is another table for further elaboration.
| Ringgit | US$ | | 3.20 | 1.00 | | 3.50 | 1.00 | | 3.80 | 1.00 |
For currency, rather than commodities, when you read down the table, you have Ringgit to pay more for US$, and this is called depreciation of Ringgit against US$. But if you read the table from bottom up, you have less Ringgit paid for US$ so Ringgit is said to be appreciated against US$.
Everything we said up to this moment is something you all know, and we just try to make it clear. But to make things clearer, comes the question asked :
Why ??
The answer is : the above two tables only work becoz US$ is the only token legitimate to gamble Futures.
But after 2008 Beijing Olympic, US$ is not the only token available to gamble Futures !! Apart from US$, Stock Market Benchmark Index components such as Singapore Airline, Maybank, Texas Instruments, HSBC, etc. are all legitimate to gamble Futures !!
When US$ is no longer the only token available for Futures gambling, then appreciation-depreciation will not locked to US$ alone, but to specific Stock Market Benchmark Index components as well. When Gold price appreciated against US$, those Stock Market Benchmark Index components related to Gold trading should rise as well. When Crude Oil Futures appreciated against US$, those Petrol and Petrol Chemical companies which also components of respective Stock Market Benchmark Index also soar. Actually you should have another table :
| Stocks | US$ | | XXXX | 10.00 | | XXXX | 13.00 | | XXXX | 19.00 |
If your mathematical skill is well-trained, you should see the change of reference point here for equity markets, not just for stock markets but also others, especially in Futures gambling.
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Post by alexsymbols on Sept 13, 2011 18:56:08 GMT 8
This one we cannot answer NOT becoz we cannot answer the question but becoz the answers contain too many hidden agenda that we cannot disclose them right now. One of them is linked to the third question below.
DJIA cannot crash to 5000 pts becoz the mathematical calculation and the most of all, strong inflation, stop DJIA crash to that low. Actually DJIA = 10,000 is at its lowest right now. DJIA = 10,000 is the bottom. Anything below 10,000 MUST trigger a rebound, forcing those price placers who responsible for placing DJIA below 10,000 to incur losses through pivot point.
Large swing of Stock Market Benchmark Index is just temporary and cannot be the main theme. And from this 3rd question you asked, you still cannot accept the global factions we explained many times. Property Sector problem only existed in China alone. But this property sector problem in China started as a specific tool by Chinese Communist Party's foes and to use housing price hike as time-bomb to totally destroy the China banking sector whenever there is a stock market crash. But unfortunately the crash of ShangHai Composite Index from 6100 to 1600 after Beijing Olympic till May-2009 was conducted by Chinese Communist Party, so full preparations were made by China banking sector to prevent mounting bad debts. Now in 2011, China housing prices have been peaked manually and with ShangHai Composite Index remain within the range 2200-2700, the market crash is actually being defused !! And if you pay enough attention to the tracks of European bourses and NYSE, you should find their stock market benchmark indices are being ranged-bound with a larger scale than ShangHai Composite Index. DAX is being ranged-bound by 5000-7700, DJIA is being ranged-bound by 10,000-13,000. We have to stop here right now or our explanation will expose the activities before 2012 European Cup !!
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Post by dummyreturn on Sept 13, 2011 21:17:50 GMT 8
Alex Symbols try to explain this part first.
| Gold /oz | US$ | | 1 oz | 400.00 | | 1 oz | 450.20 | | 1 oz | 700.00 |
If you read the Gold price /oz down the table, you will find Gold price increases = Gold price becomes expensive = Gold is appreciated against US$ = US$ is depreciated against Gold. But if you read the Gold price /oz up the table, you will find just the opposite. Here we would like to point out the appreciation-depreciation relationship; to read the table from bottom up, Gold is depreciated against US$ = US$ is appreciated against Gold.
Here is another table for further elaboration.
| Ringgit | US$ | | 3.20 | 1.00 | | 3.50 | 1.00 | | 3.80 | 1.00 |
For currency, rather than commodities, when you read down the table, you have Ringgit to pay more for US$, and this is called depreciation of Ringgit against US$. But if you read the table from bottom up, you have less Ringgit paid for US$ so Ringgit is said to be appreciated against US$.
Everything we said up to this moment is something you all know, and we just try to make it clear. But to make things clearer, comes the question asked :
Why ??
The answer is : the above two tables only work becoz US$ is the only token legitimate to gamble Futures.
But after 2008 Beijing Olympic, US$ is not the only token available to gamble Futures !! Apart from US$, Stock Market Benchmark Index components such as Singapore Airline, Maybank, Texas Instruments, HSBC, etc. are all legitimate to gamble Futures !!
When US$ is no longer the only token available for Futures gambling, then appreciation-depreciation will not locked to US$ alone, but to specific Stock Market Benchmark Index components as well. When Gold price appreciated against US$, those Stock Market Benchmark Index components related to Gold trading should rise as well. When Crude Oil Futures appreciated against US$, those Petrol and Petrol Chemical companies which also components of respective Stock Market Benchmark Index also soar. Actually you should have another table :
| Stocks | US$ | | XXXX | 10.00 | | XXXX | 13.00 | | XXXX | 19.00 |
If your mathematical skill is well-trained, you should see the change of reference point here for equity markets, not just for stock markets but also others, especially in Futures gambling.
Dear Admin, Good day!! Many thanks for the explanation. Appreciate that. Is this also the reason that gold price against other currency like sterling pound still stay strong despite gold against USD is going down? For the past few days we also witnessed softening of global market with the news that Greece possibility going to be defaulted, Eurozone is at financial risk, and Italy is seeking help from China to buy their bond to raise Cash. Is all above deliberately done by place placers/insiders to place down indices, so that they can buy at lower price. If this is the case we should see market rebound for the next couple of days. Maybe Alex Symbols hv some other insight news that can enlighten me if I am wrong. Appreciate Admin assistance. Many Thanks, dummyreturn |
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Post by alexsymbols on Sept 16, 2011 0:11:43 GMT 8
Now you can see the reason behind the calculation.
Actually Euro Zone is never in any problem, especially any financial risk. The economic size of Greece, Portugal, Ireland, Iceland, Spain, Italy all together is small. Those small economic size nations of Euro Zone cannot harm anybody, but on the other hand, can be used as excuse for price placing.
Most people, especially those who learned everything from the Jewish schools, still cannot totally accept the fact that shares can be used as tokens for Futures gambling. That is why in the first quote, the token for Gold Futures gambling is still British Pound rather than the share price of HSBC, or Caterpillar, or Hewlett-Packard, or other Stock Market Benchmark Index components. Compare any Stock Market Benchmark Index components with any Futures, not necessarily Gold, using the charting facility provided by Yahoo, then may be you can see clearer.
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